Why is this Dorian?(5 posts) (2 voices)
Now that I understand modes because of your excellent DVD, I'm looking at other instructor's perspectives to see if I can further my knowledge of their application.
I just looked at a lesson and he says that we should develop our ear to hear Dorian in it's own key? What the ??? I don't trust any other teachers on modes any more and would like your feedback on that statement.
As an example he gives |C-7 ///| as C Dorian? Yes it's true that C being the second degree on Bb would make it Dorian, but it's not a minor chord.
Can you shed some light or should I just ignore this information as confusing and irrelevant..
I'm a little confused. C-7 stands for C minor seven. So that could be Dorian mode (depending on what other chords are included). Can you explain more?
Oh...my bad...I thought it was C7..ok here's more info:
The first paragraph is how most people teach modes, which confuses the hell out of people (however I do see it's value later on in the learning process).
The second explains how you teach it.
First, memorize it?s interval pattern or what alterations it has in comparison to C Major. In this case,
C Dorian has a fl atted 3rd and 7th. You want to develop the ability to hear Dorian as its own key.
The following progressions give you an example of hearing C Dorian as the key center. Notice that
all the chords used in these progressions are diatonic to the key of C Dorian.
|: C-7 / / / |: C-7 / / / | Bb?7 / D-7 /
Second, memorize which Major scale a particular mode comes from. In this case C Dorian is the
2nd degree of Bb Major. This second method allows you to group similar scales together. For the
following progression you could just play an Bb Major scale over all the chords because the chord
scale for each chord would have the same notes as a Bb Major and the chord progression is combined
in a way that makes you hear Bb Major as the key center.
|: Bb?7 / / / | C-7 / F7 /
Frank, you already understand Dorian mode in its own key. This author is just explaining it differently. He's comparing Dorian mode to the major scale (Ionian mode). That's why he says it has a flatted 3rd and 7th. I don't like to start with this explanation because it confuses people. I think you'd agree!
Yeah..makes sense..it was my bad as I though C-7 was C7.
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